I seriously believe that Bayern will be better off in the EL. They would be underdogs against almost everybody if they qualified for the next round in the CL , a relatively more successful period in the EL wouldn't do any harm for the team. The balance of the squad is terrible, the management has wasted tons of money in the recent years, BM should re-position themselves even in the Bundesliga. I am afraid, Mani, the football you are trying to play is archaic, it seems you miss intellectual flexibility; brute force working pointlessly. Again, chain of massive errors from the management both on individual and strategic level.

I think - the goalkeeper issue is really wirred ....how did they believe they will manage with Butt and Rensing ? .....i would suggest not to change the coach....it looks wirred, that a team like Bayern would have the 4th coach in 2 seasons ? .....very wirred what is going on....maybe to much criticism and expectations....this is not BAYERN...

Mani, Tymoschuk was supposed to be the new leader in the bayern midfiled, obviously not a playmaker but the new strategist, with ribery and robben on the wing this should have been a great midfield....now robery are often injured and tymo seems highly overrated.... i agree that they made a number of mistakes this offseason, eg selling lucio, ze rob not buying a keeper etc...but as far as their performance in europe is concerned you have to say that ever since they won the c-league they have not been able to come close to challenging the top teams again, the gap got wider and wider every year...this year they tried to close the gap but they cant...someone mentioned expectaions, yes maybe they are too high, bayern didnt even win the bundesliga last year and are currently in 6th place in germany so why would you expect to be infront of the french champions and juve? when you compare the current team to the 2001 or 1999 team you just can not find characters like effe, loddar or kahn...."robery" are very good but are lacking leadership.... finally with regard to van gaal, i dont know but he seems to confuse everyone....changes his team 25 times, no one seems to have confidence besides mueller maybe...he should have tried all this in pre season not in the champions league...but maybe he just needs more time...